tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post219328543464430580..comments2024-01-19T21:33:09.716+00:00Comments on E Y E W E A R, THE BLOG - FREEDOM MEANS BEING UNAFRAID TO WRITE WHAT YOU THINK: Veronica Forrest-Thomson: Why is Poetic Artifice So Hard To Find?EYEWEARhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01900801847916951522noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-58642804953147254222012-02-28T11:11:08.268+00:002012-02-28T11:11:08.268+00:00If you feel Poetic Artifice is an important work a...If you feel Poetic Artifice is an important work and young poets should be reading it then scan a copy as a PDF and shove it online. Why persuade publishers to make money off dead poets?Angus Sinclairhttp://todayblog.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-17237558373972505552011-08-20T17:25:23.661+01:002011-08-20T17:25:23.661+01:00I was a colleague of Veronica's in the English...I was a colleague of Veronica's in the English Department at Birmingham University at the time of her death. She died of asphyxiation. She was drinking alcohol, and incautiously took a pill which stuck in her throat and choked her. There was no suggestion of suicide at the time, and no easy way to effect ones own death by such a method.<br /><br />See http://www.cambridgeliteraryreview.org/wp-content/uploads/BerengartenCLR1.pdf p.157<br /><br />Tragic.<br /><br />Tom DavisTom Davishttp://www.unask.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-1028128438360448382011-07-14T08:17:59.699+01:002011-07-14T08:17:59.699+01:00Here is my name for contact etcHere is my name for contact etcRichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10272507198753290435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-7325241860269211572011-07-14T08:16:34.378+01:002011-07-14T08:16:34.378+01:00I have copy of it. I sell books but I have it for ...I have copy of it. I sell books but I have it for my own collection. I worked in book shop in Auckland NZ and it was on the shelf there for NZ$5 but I got it for zero as I used to pay myself with books...<br /><br />I see it is going for about NZ$160 or so. The trouble is that she is deceased and there are not many copies. So collectors will want it.<br /><br />But you can always contact a book dealer directly and negotiate. Also I, for example, can do a "search" (it will go continuously on my abebooks account even for several years) which can eventually find someone who might have it quite cheap. You have to wait for that. There are companies how search for books for you but as I say look around especially on ADD ALL. <br /><br />But it could turn up for sale thrown out of a library or in an "op" shop.<br /><br />She committed suicide but I don't know why. Jacket magazine has some things about her (Google Jacket and poetry etc)<br /><br />She was clearly a genius.<br /><br />RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-26805418810242761742009-10-28T13:38:44.835+00:002009-10-28T13:38:44.835+00:00In response to 'anonymous' writing on the ...In response to 'anonymous' writing on the 6th April, I knew Veronica Forrest-Thomson very slightly at Cambridge. In the course of a brief conversation I learned that she had won the Leeds Poetry Prize, and was shown one of her poems, beginning: "In the stream...", footnote: "of consciousness". I don't remember the year, other than that it would have been between 1968 and 1971. She said that she was married, and also provided a personal detail, indicating a radical personal choice, which I hesitate to specifiy here, despite the fact that she had no compunction about communicating it in the presence of several other people. For that reason alone, when I heard almost a decade later, of her death some years before, I assumed it to have been suicide. <br /><br />My interest (and curiosity) was recently reawakened by the discovery of Alison Mark's study in a collection of books belonging to my Oxford-undergraduate son. there seems to be an understandable reticence amongst her admirers to discuss the circumstances of her death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-35939745905626638902009-04-07T08:53:00.000+01:002009-04-07T08:53:00.000+01:00I am a Poet and an independent publisher who happe...I am a Poet and an independent publisher who happens to own a copy of "Poetic Artifice". <BR/>If I could get around the copyright issue, I would be happy to republish it, in a facsimile or even a new format.<BR/><BR/>If anyone would like to help me surmount the copyright issue or can offer any advice on proceeding, I would be happy to republish the book. Contact me at eurydice@cruzio.com.NJ Pierottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-325961241699667292009-04-06T23:30:00.000+01:002009-04-06T23:30:00.000+01:00I feel a curiosity regarding the death of Veronica...I feel a curiosity regarding the death of Veronica Forrest-Thomson that is more than ghoulish. Everyone agrees that she died young, beautiful and brilliant at 27, but the death seems like a symbolic memory pursued through the pages of an unpublished Wittgensteinian novel by a metaphoric sleuth. Apparently, she passed away just after the Cambridge Poetry Festival - a reaction, perhaps, to what she heard there, or a plaguing nostalgia for what she hadn't, or couldn't? This synecdochic mortality to the sound of verse is exceptionally strange, perhaps uncanny. Forrest-Thomson is hugely underrated as a maker herself - she was an early language poet who was overlooked at the time because she hadn't fashioned what the literary establishment thought of as a style. Her verse is indeed peculiarly mannered, but contains lines of genius:<BR/><BR/>A drastic diminution<BR/>of pronouns in the early weeks of marriage<BR/>(lack of third persons, not to mention more banal examples)<BR/>leads to this retracted meadow...<BR/><BR/>which establishes language as the basis of a sense of relationship, or rather the acute lack of it strangely produced by intimate proximity. I would love to know what happened to Forrest-Thomson. How did she get so permanently into her retracted meadow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-25222118474552020742008-06-18T01:43:00.000+01:002008-06-18T01:43:00.000+01:00A picture of her here:http://jacketmagazine.com/20...A picture of her here:<BR/><BR/>http://jacketmagazine.com/20/index.shtml<BR/><BR/>How/why did she die?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-32857858463310575762008-06-15T23:52:00.000+01:002008-06-15T23:52:00.000+01:00Poetic Artifice itself is a prose work of some len...Poetic Artifice itself is a prose work of some length. I'd be surprised if it was included with her poems. But that'd be a very useful omnibus collection, certainly.EYEWEARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01900801847916951522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-4055965639855867442008-06-15T19:19:00.000+01:002008-06-15T19:19:00.000+01:00I assume it's included in the new Collected Poems ...I assume it's included in the new Collected Poems just published by Shearsman.Carrie Etterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09617695047663413425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-23116908614789355332008-06-13T19:52:00.000+01:002008-06-13T19:52:00.000+01:00I just saw this book listed on Amazon.com for $98 ...I just saw this book listed on Amazon.com for $98 (which is £50) from a used bookseller. Shipping is usually only a couple of dollars from the States. Fifty pounds is still a lot, but if you're desperate....Tara Dealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03394827103613035499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13726943.post-67659070718533300972008-06-13T11:46:00.000+01:002008-06-13T11:46:00.000+01:00To anyone who is listening, read this book. Her ...To anyone who is listening, read this book. Her early death deprived her of the chance to make the appropriate noise about herself and her ideas. <BR/><BR/>She's like all of Andrew Duncan reduced and without the exotic surround sound. <BR/><BR/>DCAnderssonLucretiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08421904310759430414noreply@blogger.com